#proprietarysoftware like #adobe #photoshop helps the #surveillance state ... like proprietary printing drivers that add yellow, pale dots that are secretly designed for spies; use #freesw instead. No source-catching traps.
@Shelenn Ayres I have nothing bad to say about gimp in general. It's OSS and I greatly appreciate its existence. That said, it does seem to be having a hard time progressing significantly in recent years. Personally I really think Krita is showing more promise, especially if it continues gaining momentum with development. Right now it isn't where gimp is, but it has a slick UI and works pretty well for what it attempts to implement.
I hate to give any props to proprietary software, but PS does have some killer features, and a much better workflow, when compared to gimp. I don't want to see gimp mirror PS, I'm fine with a different workflow, but really it feels very patchwork in it's implimentation with little cohesive workflow at all. It's just stagnated for so long now and I worry the project has just reached a point where it's too difficult to impliment many modern features using the current code base. There's been improvements with CMYK support and some other thin... mehr anzeigen
@Shelenn Ayres I have nothing bad to say about gimp in general. It's OSS and I greatly appreciate its existence. That said, it does seem to be having a hard time progressing significantly in recent years. Personally I really think Krita is showing more promise, especially if it continues gaining momentum with development. Right now it isn't where gimp is, but it has a slick UI and works pretty well for what it attempts to implement.
I hate to give any props to proprietary software, but PS does have some killer features, and a much better workflow, when compared to gimp. I don't want to see gimp mirror PS, I'm fine with a different workflow, but really it feels very patchwork in it's implimentation with little cohesive workflow at all. It's just stagnated for so long now and I worry the project has just reached a point where it's too difficult to impliment many modern features using the current code base. There's been improvements with CMYK support and some other things that are needed for real design use, outside of web-graphics, but even that took over a decade to be implimented properly, iirc. But again, I'm just happy that we have anything that is somewhat comparable in the OSS library! It's just that we have a top notch vector app, we have great type setting tools, there's even some very nice simipro/pro audio stuff out there (although you wouldn't know it from the UI, but who cares really) that gets better latency than anything in Windows, and Blender is amazing for all sorts of 3D design... but when it comes to general graphic design and video editing I can't honestly convince anyone that we can offer something equal or better in OSS... Still, I've forgone windows all together. I can make do with gimp & krita for the most part, with sacrafices, but I have yet to find a video editor that matches, not just Adobe Premiere, even just Sony Vegas. I'm always trying new OS video and graphics tools when I come across them though. I think it's just a matter of time.
@Adam Gaskins honestly I have never used Krita - it looks interesting. Since I spend more time scripting and modeling than creating graphics, I am able to use Gimp2 to meet my needs which do not include a lot of hand painting style creations. I might check out Krita though and compare it to other painting tools.
On video editing, I doubt most users engage in frame level editing. I found Adobe Premiere to be a waste of money for me. When I edit videos for myself or for clients, my primary needs are: adding captions, adding music, adding clips, adding credits, and providing transitions for all of those to meet the style requested. Replacing the popular Movie Maker application, Story Remix code was added to the latest Microsoft Photos app allowing most users to meet basic requirements on their own without spending money. I have not tried it yet but am curious about the make someone a star feature. Shotcut is a FOSS alternative that meets most needs. For other mo... mehr anzeigen
@Adam Gaskins honestly I have never used Krita - it looks interesting. Since I spend more time scripting and modeling than creating graphics, I am able to use Gimp2 to meet my needs which do not include a lot of hand painting style creations. I might check out Krita though and compare it to other painting tools.
On video editing, I doubt most users engage in frame level editing. I found Adobe Premiere to be a waste of money for me. When I edit videos for myself or for clients, my primary needs are: adding captions, adding music, adding clips, adding credits, and providing transitions for all of those to meet the style requested. Replacing the popular Movie Maker application, Story Remix code was added to the latest Microsoft Photos app allowing most users to meet basic requirements on their own without spending money. I have not tried it yet but am curious about the make someone a star feature. Shotcut is a FOSS alternative that meets most needs. For other more complex use, you might look at Lightworks. I have not tried Hitfilm Express as of yet but plan to do so when I get another system available (like Blender it is a huge resource hog).
As for Blender - I am not a fan for those new to 3D. The UI is not user friendly nor intuitive resulting in a steep learning curve I believe is unnecessary. That said, as with any application, users will always have preferences. For example, I use Meshlab often but then I am an engineer who finds the filters intuitive and powerful for repair and reductions - especially when the source is a point cloud. There are quite a few Blender users who use it to do things Blender cannot and vice versa. Meshlab is a great open source alternative to Okino's tools.
I also know people who are not Bender fans who swear by Wings3D because they find Wings3D intuitive and user friendly. Having worked with a variety of 3D technologies since the 80's, I've found there is no single tool that does all that I need. NPS's X3D-Edit is a great tool for beginners doing modeling, simulation, and analysis without a need for high end visual game quality. However, anyone who has been into authoring Web3D worlds is aware one can achieve high quality gaming visuals in that technology as well if you have the right tools for working with indexed face sets. Extensions for your renderer are key to real-time simulation effects. It all depends on your requirements.
Great info here @Shelenn Ayres ! Thanks for sharing. At some point i've tried most (if not all) of the video editors you've mentioned and always found one key element missing that I guess I had always been spoilt by in Adobe Premier/AE & Sony Vegas back in my Windows days... namely, envelope control of various parameters. I got so used to this that I find it very hard to edit confortably with any of these tools. Maybe there is some other paradigm for automating parameters that I have simply not yet grok'd. I'm sure Blender could probably do this, but I've barely scratched the surface in that app, and nothing involving video editing. I get the impression that it can do some of the things I might be missing from AE, like scripting parameters, motion tracking, etc.. But the real killer feature for me is simple envelope control of params in an otherwise fairly basic video editor. Have you came across an app that might do this? It's entirely possible that it's been right und... mehr anzeigen
Great info here @Shelenn Ayres ! Thanks for sharing. At some point i've tried most (if not all) of the video editors you've mentioned and always found one key element missing that I guess I had always been spoilt by in Adobe Premier/AE & Sony Vegas back in my Windows days... namely, envelope control of various parameters. I got so used to this that I find it very hard to edit confortably with any of these tools. Maybe there is some other paradigm for automating parameters that I have simply not yet grok'd. I'm sure Blender could probably do this, but I've barely scratched the surface in that app, and nothing involving video editing. I get the impression that it can do some of the things I might be missing from AE, like scripting parameters, motion tracking, etc.. But the real killer feature for me is simple envelope control of params in an otherwise fairly basic video editor. Have you came across an app that might do this? It's entirely possible that it's been right under my nose and I've over looked it.
And I think your accessment is accurate for gimp vs. krita. Krita is more geared towards brushes, GUI fx control (vs scripting in gimp, although it might support some scripting too, not sure) and traditional PS-style layers/masks/etc that have become mostly ubiquitous (and at this point probably are done better in gimp). What makes me excited about Krita though is that the UI is much more consice and the project, last I checked (which was admittedly a while ago) had more activity and momentum that gimp. I think if Krita keeps up it's evolution it could become something quite nice to fill that niche right inbetween a) something user-friendly, but very limited, like Pinta (a simple but nice sort of ms paint app), and b) something like gimp, which is highy robust & powerful but less intuitive or user-friendly for basic graphic design.
Let me know if you have any suggestions on the envelope thing. I'd be so grateful if you have come across such features in OSS land and could point me in the right direction! :P
Reg. the yellow dots - I always assumed that they got added in hardware and have heard of software that adds additional dots to make them unreadable. Would be interested to learn if they actually get added by the driver as that would be a big plus for using free software.
@elrido I don't know for sure, but I can tell you that I once had a need to scan & print some money (it was for a movie prop where the money needed to be burned... seriously! haha) and M$ Windows, where I worked, would not allow this to work. Every time I tried to scan it would get thru the scan and give an error (I wish I remembered the error or had a screen shot, it was interesting to say the least). So, suspecting the Windows driver being the issue, I tried my laptop with GNU/Linux, used OS drivers and it worked without a hitch! Printing also worked fine, but I didn't try that in Windows (iirc). I figured the printer/scanner combo is pretty basic and 'dumb' hardware. The drivers are typically where the magic happens, and I think this case was no exception.
This isn't a particularly unreasonable scenario on it's own, I guess. But I do highly doubt that the manufacturer took the time to code this proceedure that can detect money of their own volition (time being money, a... mehr anzeigen
@elrido I don't know for sure, but I can tell you that I once had a need to scan & print some money (it was for a movie prop where the money needed to be burned... seriously! haha) and M$ Windows, where I worked, would not allow this to work. Every time I tried to scan it would get thru the scan and give an error (I wish I remembered the error or had a screen shot, it was interesting to say the least). So, suspecting the Windows driver being the issue, I tried my laptop with GNU/Linux, used OS drivers and it worked without a hitch! Printing also worked fine, but I didn't try that in Windows (iirc). I figured the printer/scanner combo is pretty basic and 'dumb' hardware. The drivers are typically where the magic happens, and I think this case was no exception.
This isn't a particularly unreasonable scenario on it's own, I guess. But I do highly doubt that the manufacturer took the time to code this proceedure that can detect money of their own volition (time being money, and all); I'd be willing to bet they were asked/required to do so for the government. I remember breifly seearching for some mention of this in the printer manual and other manufacturer docs and didn't see anything (it's possible I missed something). So I find this to be a classic example of why it's dangerous to trust proprietary/closed-source software (or hardware for that matter), because if they would add this routine, who knows what else is in the code we run on our machines! Imagine what is likely in networking hardware if the government has made printer/scanner makers add this! Some of it's know, so we don't need to imagine, but I'm sure what we know is just the tip of the iceberg...
@elrido Just to be clear, this was a very low end budget all-in-one printer - not some sophisticated device that could actually even print money that looked remotely real! So this is why I highly doubt the manufacter would have programmed such things in to the drivers on their own.
Shelenn Ayres
Als Antwort auf Adam Gaskins • •Adam Gaskins
Als Antwort auf Shelenn Ayres • •I hate to give any props to proprietary software, but PS does have some killer features, and a much better workflow, when compared to gimp. I don't want to see gimp mirror PS, I'm fine with a different workflow, but really it feels very patchwork in it's implimentation with little cohesive workflow at all. It's just stagnated for so long now and I worry the project has just reached a point where it's too difficult to impliment many modern features using the current code base. There's been improvements with CMYK support and some other thin... mehr anzeigen
I hate to give any props to proprietary software, but PS does have some killer features, and a much better workflow, when compared to gimp. I don't want to see gimp mirror PS, I'm fine with a different workflow, but really it feels very patchwork in it's implimentation with little cohesive workflow at all. It's just stagnated for so long now and I worry the project has just reached a point where it's too difficult to impliment many modern features using the current code base. There's been improvements with CMYK support and some other things that are needed for real design use, outside of web-graphics, but even that took over a decade to be implimented properly, iirc. But again, I'm just happy that we have anything that is somewhat comparable in the OSS library! It's just that we have a top notch vector app, we have great type setting tools, there's even some very nice simipro/pro audio stuff out there (although you wouldn't know it from the UI, but who cares really) that gets better latency than anything in Windows, and Blender is amazing for all sorts of 3D design... but when it comes to general graphic design and video editing I can't honestly convince anyone that we can offer something equal or better in OSS... Still, I've forgone windows all together. I can make do with gimp & krita for the most part, with sacrafices, but I have yet to find a video editor that matches, not just Adobe Premiere, even just Sony Vegas. I'm always trying new OS video and graphics tools when I come across them though. I think it's just a matter of time.
What are your thoughts on Krita @Shelenn Ayres ?
Shelenn Ayres
Als Antwort auf Adam Gaskins • •On video editing, I doubt most users engage in frame level editing. I found Adobe Premiere to be a waste of money for me. When I edit videos for myself or for clients, my primary needs are: adding captions, adding music, adding clips, adding credits, and providing transitions for all of those to meet the style requested. Replacing the popular Movie Maker application, Story Remix code was added to the latest Microsoft Photos app allowing most users to meet basic requirements on their own without spending money. I have not tried it yet but am curious about the make someone a star feature.
Shotcut is a FOSS alternative that meets most needs. For other mo... mehr anzeigen
On video editing, I doubt most users engage in frame level editing. I found Adobe Premiere to be a waste of money for me. When I edit videos for myself or for clients, my primary needs are: adding captions, adding music, adding clips, adding credits, and providing transitions for all of those to meet the style requested. Replacing the popular Movie Maker application, Story Remix code was added to the latest Microsoft Photos app allowing most users to meet basic requirements on their own without spending money. I have not tried it yet but am curious about the make someone a star feature.
Shotcut is a FOSS alternative that meets most needs. For other more complex use, you might look at Lightworks. I have not tried Hitfilm Express as of yet but plan to do so when I get another system available (like Blender it is a huge resource hog).
As for Blender - I am not a fan for those new to 3D. The UI is not user friendly nor intuitive resulting in a steep learning curve I believe is unnecessary. That said, as with any application, users will always have preferences. For example, I use Meshlab often but then I am an engineer who finds the filters intuitive and powerful for repair and reductions - especially when the source is a point cloud. There are quite a few Blender users who use it to do things Blender cannot and vice versa. Meshlab is a great open source alternative to Okino's tools.
I also know people who are not Bender fans who swear by Wings3D because they find Wings3D intuitive and user friendly. Having worked with a variety of 3D technologies since the 80's, I've found there is no single tool that does all that I need. NPS's X3D-Edit is a great tool for beginners doing modeling, simulation, and analysis without a need for high end visual game quality. However, anyone who has been into authoring Web3D worlds is aware one can achieve high quality gaming visuals in that technology as well if you have the right tools for working with indexed face sets. Extensions for your renderer are key to real-time simulation effects. It all depends on your requirements.
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Adam Gaskins
Als Antwort auf Shelenn Ayres • •And I think your accessment is accurate for gimp vs. krita. Krita is more geared towards brushes, GUI fx control (vs scripting in gimp, although it might support some scripting too, not sure) and traditional PS-style layers/masks/etc that have become mostly ubiquitous (and at this point probably are done better in gimp). What makes me excited about Krita though is that the UI is much more consice and the project, last I checked (which was admittedly a while ago) had more activity and momentum that gimp. I think if Krita keeps up it's evolution it could become something quite nice to fill that niche right inbetween a) something user-friendly, but very limited, like Pinta (a simple but nice sort of ms paint app), and b) something like gimp, which is highy robust & powerful but less intuitive or user-friendly for basic graphic design.
Let me know if you have any suggestions on the envelope thing. I'd be so grateful if you have come across such features in OSS land and could point me in the right direction! :P
Shelenn Ayres
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Adam Gaskins
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Als Antwort auf elrido • •This isn't a particularly unreasonable scenario on it's own, I guess. But I do highly doubt that the manufacturer took the time to code this proceedure that can detect money of their own volition (time being money, a... mehr anzeigen
This isn't a particularly unreasonable scenario on it's own, I guess. But I do highly doubt that the manufacturer took the time to code this proceedure that can detect money of their own volition (time being money, and all); I'd be willing to bet they were asked/required to do so for the government. I remember breifly seearching for some mention of this in the printer manual and other manufacturer docs and didn't see anything (it's possible I missed something). So I find this to be a classic example of why it's dangerous to trust proprietary/closed-source software (or hardware for that matter), because if they would add this routine, who knows what else is in the code we run on our machines! Imagine what is likely in networking hardware if the government has made printer/scanner makers add this! Some of it's know, so we don't need to imagine, but I'm sure what we know is just the tip of the iceberg...
Adam Gaskins
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