Als Antwort auf Aral Balkan

Yeah, asking for him to resign is going to stop the project dead. No one else has the know-how or motivation to drive it at large. Even the two well-known forks have minimal developer resources.

It's still not wrong to ask him to consider uses that are different from those of mastodon.social, and to lobby for features that may not fit his vision for future development of the software.

Als Antwort auf Aral Balkan

Mastodon already has several forks. That open letter mentions one. This account is hosted on another. It's not the same thing. Gargron is the founder of Mastodon. He's the face of the project. And the project isn't just a piece of software anymore, it's all our communities. Which are now at risk.

Tech is never "just tech". You should know better than most people. I thought you did.

Als Antwort auf No Time To Play

Right, tech is never “just tech”, it’s political. Fully agreed. So remind me where it says you have the right to make someone else stop working on something they’re building?

If the sternly-worded letter doesn’t work, what next? Should we shackle his hands to make sure he can’t type? Do you also take a kid’s Legos away if you don’t like what they’re building? Heck, even that isn’t a good analogy because the kid probably didn’t mold and craft the Legos himself.

*still smh*

Als Antwort auf Aral Balkan

I haven’t read the letter, but a call for resignation is most definitely an act for the politics of the thing rather than the code. As such it feels disingenuous to me to simply insist someone fork the code. What are all the non coding contributors to do? Do they not get a say in the culture of mastodon just because their contribution area doesn’t have the mechanisms necessary to fork?

Is it a silly demand for an open source project? A bit. But that doesn’t make the people making the demand silly or drug users/addicts. For many people Mastodon is their first or only experience of the fediverse and/or open-source.

How do we build a community around the fediverse such that we can collectively push for changes when and where they are necessary? Does it produce a vibrant and healthy community if the only or main way to address leadership we don’t agree with is to build our own camp/software? Seems like a lot of repetition of effort to me.

Als Antwort auf Aral Balkan

for me I think it would be good to challenge and propose changes to the management structure of the software.

It's used by more than his two big instances, but I don't feel like admins like myself get any say in the direction of the software without chipping in code (and running an instance takes most of the time I might have to contribute even if it was incorporated) maybe a board or working group is needed?

But asking him to stop doing EVERYTHING seems pointless

Als Antwort auf Florian Jensen

Als Antwort auf Florian Jensen

since he doesn’t seem to like those timelines but a large part of his users do i think’s it’s not absurd to ask for him to deliver. He’s the one wanting mastodon to rise and gain more users. Yet he doesn’t really listen to his userbase.

Not all folks here are developers, we can’t all just fork. And maintain the new software. He has the skills, the funds, and the human ressources.

Als Antwort auf Aral Balkan

i did not read the open letter as i did not find it, but in general terms:
- Asking politely to the developer of a software for a feature, with data to back up your choices= GOOD
- If no attention is paid you can always fork. Seems to be a lot of people interested (worse projects have been forked)
- Asking a developer to stop the project or give it away because you don't like a feature= BAD
- This is typical troll attitude
- No offense intended
- I do love local timeline
Als Antwort auf Aral Balkan

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@spla Let me be evil just for a little. How many of those haters are using android :android: ? How ever, this is a nonsense, they can fork and spin once again their hamster wheel. If someone thinks they can do it better, stop thinking and amuse us. Otherwise is just an opinion. The squall will pass. This turpitude can not disturbe the mettlesome of the creator.
@spla